Online Writing; Sites that Pay, and Those that Don't

When one begins to write online expectations fluctuate, from crowing about getting 30 hits to receiving that first 40c.  Overtime one learns, usually the hard way, that many sites don't pay, and not only don't they pay, they steal your work.  Those who live within walking distance of the registered office of the site usually get paid and regain their copyright.  Those who live in the same country can file a lawsuit.  Those who do not live in that country; basically America, wear signs; "Rip Me Off."

Most people know of Triond    .This site started out really good.  Great writers, lots of hits, and there was a sense of community.  Over time standards dropped.   To prove it, many of the 'writers' (term used loosely) began to publish really poor quality items as well as complete fictions.  They thought that this would shock Triond into re-instituting human moderation.  It didn't happen.  Standards kept dropping until Adsense marked it a 'Content Farm' and set it's Rolling Panda to mark down every item on Triond.

What this means is that if you wrote an article on a site marked a 'Content Farm' it would start with a minus score on searches, even though all words might match.  Hence, if a user entered the terms; "How To Make a Vegetarian Pizza" and there was an article on Triond with the exact name, it would rank lower in a search than articles titled, "How to bake Pizza", "Making Pizza,"  etc. 

Hence hits have dropped, revenue has dropped.

   is very much like Triond, but has not gotten that thumbs down.  It pays through Adsense, which means that one might gets hits but not much revenue.  But it does pay, and does not steal your copyright.

ial sites is    This site has what can only be called 'Shills' who run from writing site to writing site trying to entice people to join.   These Shills are to outshout those who have complained they have been ripped off by Factoidz.  With 74k+ returns to a Google "Factoidz+rip off" and over 100k returns to Factoidz+scam it is not surprising that the site is changing it's name to Knoji.   I don't think any honest person can recommend this writing site.

One of the most famous and long lasting is   This site pays by Adsense only, and did have some problem early in 2011 as being labled a 'Content Farm'.  A lot of effort has gone into moderation, so be careful if you quote too much, for it might respond with a big red 'Duplication' on your article.

What you need to do before you join any site is to read the Terms of Service.  If in anyway the site refuses to let you delete an article, that means they have taken your copyright.  Further, be very chary of how it 'punishes'.

For example, Factoidz will drop a writer to a 'member' and confiscate their work, leave it up earning revenue, and pay the 'member' NOTHING.   Other sites, such as Xomba; will bar a user and delete their account.  Although Xomba is not recommended, it does not steal your copyright.

 

The Best thing to do when joining a new writing site, (after reading the TOS) is to publish something that means nothing to you.  If you can't delete it, your copyright has been confiscated so publish nothing else there and move on.

 

15 Comments

Written by E_Chastain, 422 days ago.
That is a great tip about deleting.

I have vaguely heard one or two very good writers hint that they may have gotten a few cents at Wikinut. As far as I know other than those very vague hints no one makes enough to ever reach payout. It takes forever to edit an article once published and I have never been able to get one deleted just put into eternal draft mode.
Written by Jaye, 422 days ago.
Wikinut does pay...a few pennies, but it has been pretty consistent since inception. One doesn't lose their copywrite at Wikinut, (one can change the article and take it down). This is unlike Factoidz and it's new manifestaton Knoji; once something is posted, the writer can never get it back. Even if the writer was NOT PAID for the article, the writer can not take it down.
Written by E_Chastain, 421 days ago.
So tell me how to delete (take down) articles from Wikinut. I am having no success with taking down my articles there and site owners do not respond.
Written by Jaye, 421 days ago.
Easy as pie. As a Draft simply hit 'delete' it's gone forever
Written by E_Chastain, 421 days ago.
I wish that were true. Mine was in draft where it sat for months, Yesterday I hit delete and it went immediately back to my list of published articles.

Right after I wrote the above comment I went back again today and decided to edit again. I didn't change the article only added a note to the moderator that I want it deleted. I'll be darned surprised if it gets deleted.
Written by intellifax, 422 days ago.
Great information...Let's not forget about infobarrel as one of the better paying sites!
Written by Jaye, 421 days ago.
I didn't want the article to be too long so just hit on a few sites...saving others for a Part II
Written by Jaye, 421 days ago.
E_Chastain, that is wierd. I've had articles in draft, hit delete and they were gone.
Written by Jaye, 407 days ago.
But I've removed Wikinut from this article, just in case what you've experienced is more the norm than the exception. Don't want to promote a bad site.
Written by E_Chastain, 407 days ago.
Your article is fine Jaye but I do agree with your decision to remove the site. I went back to my account there and clicked My Pages and changed the drop down menu to All. The article I want deleted is still there and I have yet to receive any word from administration. It appears articles can not be deleted and the moderators have told me they can not delete them and have no idea how to do so.
Written by Jaye, 405 days ago.
I rather err on the side of the user, than even accidentally support a site which may be dishonest. The character who is in charge is called Chief Nut...see if pm'g him will work.
Written by E_Chastain, 404 days ago.
I pm'd Chief Nut, no reply and the article is still there. I have tried for months. At this point I have written off the site completely. Thank you for your suggestions.
Written by Jaye, 403 days ago.
I checked around; another user was able to remove her stuff, but it took 2 week...she pm'd the Nut fairly frequently. I think this might be a good move...becoming a pest. The fact that many Wikinut users are also mentioning is the very poor pay.
Written by SimplySara, 326 days ago.
I've been paid by Knoji and know others who have as well. I wasn't around during their Factoidz era, so it sounds like they've turned things around.
Written by Jaye, 326 days ago.
Knoji will pay something like $2.00 Bonus the first month. You then start turning out articles which now get a $1.00 Bonus, then 50c, then 25c, then 10c. And you stay at a 10c Bonus until you are kicked off.

Factoidz did the same only that they paid well the first two months, getting $50 from Factoidz was on the low side. After the first two months you were either dropped to member and got nothing or were told you had 'low value' articles and would get 1c per 1000 hits.